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Sunday, July 22, 2012

The Time Is Upon Us

The purpose of this blog has always been about reasoning with those who happen upon its pages. It has been about trying to convince those who are able to step out and take up the work of restoration. I have sought desperately to find that solution that would enable the United States to function as the light of liberty cast into a darker Third World of oppression and degradation even as the darkness has settled upon it.

This blog has never personally attacked the other side, other than to identify them as Marxists. It is not my style to blame someone else for my troubles. Barack Obama is not to blame for pursuing the plans he has so readily and overtly had from the beginning. We are to blame for allowing our nation to fall into such depravity and self-loathing to have tolerated his political ideology to take root in this nation. Out of selfishness and wealth we have turned our heads and kept mum about the revolution taking place from the top down.

Oh yes, we have shouted our disapproval on these pages and others. We have attended Tea Party events and protested the worst of the egregious programs voted in by our representatives, but that was not enough, was it? We failed to constructively turn the ship of state around. This November will be nothing other than a joke where we elect Obama again, or someone quite similar. There is no choice and the evil things planned for us will go on undaunted.

My intent so long ago, when I started writing here, was to forestall the inevitable. I had to give it a try. I had to try and use the weapons at my disposal to turn some opinions around, to reach out and give comfort to those who saw the world as I do, but more importantly to try and do something that would stop the insanity headed our way.

We will soon be party to a filthy business. No one will get out clean. Either we will discover that we are capable of unheard of atrocities ourselves, or we will be consumed by the fires of hatred set by the very people we have voted into public office.

Look at your Mayor, your local policeman and imagine them for a moment not as the good people you see at church, or wave to on the street, but as the very people who will identify you as a terrorist and drag you out of your home to face obscure criminal charges made up in the desperation for control. You represent a threat to them because you speak your mind, or possess the ability to resist the next phase of captivity.

Yes, we are in the first phase of captivity as we speak. Our government has already been revolutionized beyond recognition and we are digital captives right now. They know where we are, who we are and how to get a hold of us at a moment's notice all by use of a computer and GPS. That is captivity. Try to escape. See how quickly you become a suspect once you try to erase your digital fingerprint. Those who have already gotten out are considered terrorists, those who are trying to get out are considered terrorists. It is nothing to put out an arrest warrant and instigate that visit from your local chum, the cop.

The cold war has been taking place for generations, the hot war is coming. It doesn't matter what happens on July 27th when the Senate considers the U.N. small arms treaty, because they are already prepared for the aftermath of a positive vote on it and once someone is already prepared, why not just go ahead and prosecute the event? The events in Colorado are just what they have been waiting for and a positive vote in the Senate would just fit right in, wouldn't it? But now, even if it doesn't turn out favorably, why shouldn't they just go ahead with the plan as if it had? What is one more Executive Order, after all?

This is the moment we all should have worked to forestall. This is the time in history all of us have been putting up stores against. This is when all of those Oathkeepers said they would stand up, yet they have been in meetings, they have gotten the script already, where are they? Have they said a word about the impending orders that will come after the 27th? No.

We see the battle lines clearly now, don't we? It doesn't matter how the vote goes, it is just a matter of time before Colorado becomes the reason rather than the vote. The plans are too well laid, don't you see? This is the big grab and they think they are ready for it. Whether through tighter regulations, or outright invasion, they mean to have our guns so they don't have to face them in the future.

My suggestion is simple. Don't take it lying down.

49 comments:

  1. I am an Oathkeeper TL, and I am a disabled Vietnam-era vet, and I am not lying down. If or when they come for my guns, I will LIE and tell them I sold them all. If that doesn't work, I apparently will have to die in a hail of gunfire, because I refuse to go to the reeducation camps.

    As Sir Winston Churchill said, "If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

    I will NOT live as a slave.

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    1. I was watching Law and Order SVU marathon today , when a glitch in the program came on the tv and said" Time is upon us " . So I broke out my smart phone and typed it in . Word for word , brought to this site. As you are right time is upon us, and its time for us to act as Americans just as our forefathers did when they drafted the constitution of the united states . And that is what's happening today our rights are being stript away , by the president of these united states of America , our represenitives in congress , and police forces. We have turned into the new nazis of the world and are starting to police our own people. That is what the New World Order ,is all about . People like myself are all ready being watched by the government, with their drones, cars , cell phones and gadgets,

      We as a people, have the basic humane or human right, to freedom of the press, religion , percussion. . They will persecute all non conformist. Who stand up to the government. When FEMA takes over the world . We people like me will be locked up in a room and throw away the room. Because I will stand and fight, and they will not take away my guns . The signs are here and they government is waiting to
      Act , Starting with this UN arms agreement. Did you know they will use the un troops ,to push their agenda . That means Foreign troops on American soil. Coming to your house , neighborhoods ,and barrios in the united states of the New world America
      we are is the government is training them to do so. By the aU S military . Sign s such as Drones, fema camps, coffins, fusion centers, un soldiers. Wake America up, thank you An American Patriot

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  2. One comment? I guess this tells the truth about the level of conviction to support Liberty in our country. Whenever I waiver, all I need to do is to picture my children enslaved. I will act wisely without even doubting my motives, faith or honor.

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  3. I feel it is unfair for us to condemn ourselves along with the rest of the country, along with _all_ of the generations of America who have allowed it to get this far. I would guess that most of us who prize individualism, being responsible for ourselves, Judeo-Christian moral values (with or without the religion attached), duty to family and honor, along with respect for the Constitution and the rights of others have simply existed in too great a minority to have sufficient effect upon our government and our society.

    It isn't our fault that too many people aren't awake enough to see what is going on. Where we can fault ourselves is when we find that we have made no attempt to awaken others to the truth, when we have not encouraged others to return to a decent moral code, when we haven't tried to do what is right, what we know is right.

    Before the Internet, getting the message out to a significant number of others was extremely difficult. Some men and women succeeded anyway, but very few. With the advent of the Internet, it is possible to have your thoughts, your ideas, your convictions placed out where many people can see them. Where they can be passed on to more people, who otherwise might never get to see them.

    I have a pathetic little blog where I write about things important to me, mainly liberty, Israel, and the obscenity that is Islam. But there are major blogs, like here at TL in Exile, where the education of those who have not yet connected the dots takes place. Where it is possible to present the facts to people not aware of them, with the hope that those people will pass them on to their family and friends, even through little pissant blogs like my own. Where people who ARE aware can be encouraged, fired-up, made to teach others about what is important today and what is smoke and mirrors, what are "sparklies".

    It isn't hard work, except in the cost to your soul to think that you simply won't be able to awaken and motivate enough people to make a real difference. But people like TL, and Pete at WRSA, and Francis Porretto at Liberty's Torch, and Tam at View From The Porch, and many others DO touch people, do make them think, do get them motivated. It isn't hopeless. And it isn't over until YOU say it is over.

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    1. Well said, Reg. Though I often feel as if this is a pissant little blog as well. Pete has a veritable kingdom.

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    2. I'm with Reg. Great strides have been made. If it wasn't for you TL, Reg, and so many others, who have the courage of their convictions, where would the rest of us be? Who else in the sphere of our lives has set the examples so dearly needed to awaken the gospel of liberty in a myriad of ways where there is something for everyone to grasp and become enlightened by? And each in his own pass that to others, and so on?
      The time of our founders is long past. The ideals and principles they set forth are as valid and vital today as 00 years ago. Liberty is something inherent in people, not an out dated set of idioms.
      It is our time now.
      It is our time, time for people of vision and courage to carry the flag of our forefathers. To honor and preserve, to protect and advance the gifts they gave to us.

      I believe in you all who have done this.
      I believe in what matters most.

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    3. As RegT knows, I have little use for Israel or any other foreign entanglement. Oddly, RegT never calls for the security of our borders. But he will damn well support the no-good Israelis who murdered 34 Americans and wounded more than 100 Americans with there blatant attack on the USS Liberty in 1967. I haven't forgotten those murderous, Israeli bastards for that atrocity. For those who continually support the state of Israel and other foreign countries, at the expense of our blood and treasure, I wish you an untimely death and a speedy trip to Hades.

      I'm a nationalist. A Patriot. One's support for Israel and any other nation tells me you have little love or loyalty to the USA.

      DAN III
      Pennsylvania

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    4. Hey Dan,

      A democratic country like the USA needs buddies who are also democratic. When the mussies stop being covert in their war against the West, the Israelis have both the experience and knowledge we may need. Unless one of many other scenarios of the US's demise first play out. Then they're just good buddies to have.

      I truly hope I never meet you. Luckily for both of us, there are too many dense population centers between us, otherwise I would come to try and change your mind when the ROL is lost in this once fine country. You don't like the Israelis? Put away your cell phone, lots of medications and other goodies developed in Tel Aviv you silly little snot.

      Granted flying wounded soldiers from Kuwait and Iraq back to Germany for treatment doesn't make me a warrior. But it did show me the barbarity of the mussie culture and their hatred for all things Western culture holds as exemplary. Working with Israelis has filled me with nothing but respect. What, 7 million or so "no-good Israelis" (men and women, old and young) keeping 100+ million mussie men of fighting age on their borders from ravaging their country? Learn from them if you are able. Doubtful.

      I support Israel. I support Israel because I am a patriot. As long as you listen to the smallness of your mind, you are worthless.

      I have no use for you or yours. I hope to either change your little mind or help you on a far speedier trip. Your blood is far from treasure, at best fair compost for a small garden or bait for some rodents.

      It shames me to be so divisive, but the only way I would have your back is with a clear sight picture or crosshairs.

      Fuck Obama. And you.

      Justin Paign
      Maine

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    5. Justin.....you support the Israelis, how ? With your money or with mine ? You support the Israelis with your blood or the blood of my friends, my relatives, my countrymen.

      The POS Israelis MURDERED American citizens in 1967. But I can tell by that bullshit "Justin" name of yours that your a punk who has no knowledge or appreciation for history and fact.

      You want a piece of my ass you snot-nosed POS traitor to Freedom ? 2324 Happy Valley Road, E. Springfield, PA 16411. I've put others on the ground for less than your bullshit. Bring it on....theres a 12 gauge always at the ready.

      Screw you AND the ISRAELIS AND those who support them.

      Come on down Justin.....

      DAN III

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    6. Hey Justin you pathetic little shit, way to go round-about threatening an American patriot for not kissing up to a foreign nation to your satisfaction.
      When opportunity presents itself, Israel's interests may sometimes cynically coincide with that of the United States i.e Amerika.gov but Israel ALWAYS puts Israel first and does what's best for Israel
      A constitutional Republic (FIFY) like America needs no-one in taking care of it's business.
      Take your cross-hairs and shove them up where your cranium currently resides
      America only, America first and always.
      Long live the Republic and fuck you.

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    7. Hey Justin....your Israelis ARE NOT Amerkcans. But you value the state of Israel over your own country. You wrote a lot of shit and personally threatened me. I put many years in the US military to defend the Constitution, not the murderous bastard Israelis you love so much. You write a lot of trash with your threats. But you are a punk who has no clue wbo you are threatening.

      You are a traitorous bastard. My friends and countrymen are who I support. Why don't you move to Israel and join the IDF like that POS Rahm Emanuel. You have more in common with that scumbag than with American Patriots. You may think you're a patriot but only to the Israelis.

      You got my home address....bring it on. Unlike you I'm a man of my convictions.

      DAN III

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    8. Hey Justin.....did you ever wonder or question why the USA is fighting and dying in the Middle East ? For what ? Perhaps those ragheads are justified in opposing the imperialists in their country ?

      While we have unsecured borders and our southwest is being returned to Mexico, you want to defend the POS Israelis.

      Bring it on you traitorous bastard. I'm sick and tired of your type supporting the death and maiming of my countrymen, the loss of our treasure expended on foreign wars, and the support of graitors like you who value foreign countries over our America.

      You've got my address....

      DAN III

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    9. Well said III !

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    10. Mr. Anhourofwolves.....thank GOD there are still true American Patriots like yourself. I'm angered by the traitors in our midst like this Justin who values foreigners over his own countrymen. Like Justin who would threaten an American citizen and US Military veteran, like myself, for denouncing foreign entanglements.

      Justin appears to be just another stooge for the Israeli lobby and possibly a DHS operative.

      Thank you for being a real American who believes in American sovereignty.

      DAN III

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    11. Hey Justin Paign from Maine (Got your addy BTW),

      You call my beloved country a democracy....guess what traitor, you and obama have something in common....you both have no clue what this country is.....it is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.

      How's that paycheck signed by Janet ? Pretty sweet, eh ?

      You've vot my address boy.

      DAN III

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    12. Justin Paign from Maine....I am calling you out.....you threatened me. Now I'm telling you to BACK UP YOUR THREATS !

      BACK UP YOUR THREATS OF VIOLENCE AGAINST ME....YOU'VE GOT MY ADDRESS.

      DAN III

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    13. Justin, what the hell is the matter with you? You're an internet patriot and your true colors are that you are obviously a closet globalist. "It shames me to be so divisive, but the only way I would have your back is with a clear sight picture or crosshairs.". Shames you to be so divisive? I have no choice but to doubt that very much. Clear sight picture or crosshairs of his back, huh Justin? That says a great deal about your character. You talk about drawing down on THE BACK of an American citizen who puts his love of country first and foremost while you, and others of this ilk, talk about being patriots because you support Israel? LMAO, the global elites just love people like you because you speak with forked tongue!!! You and your ilk are extremely divisive, so thanks for nothing...

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    14. Sorry danny boy, I will wait to see if coincidence brings us together after the ROL has faded. You're just not worth the gas nor time to debate.

      I didn't say the Israelis were perfect nor valued over Americans, just that they are worthy allies, fighting the same fight against islam we are.

      As far as Service, my DD214 has a few combat hours in flight....

      And I am sure you are an Army of One. Unfortunately, rugged individualists like yourself often lack the benefits of working within a team.

      Go re-read your Elders of Zion. It's all the fault of the evil Jooooos.

      I find it somewhat funny you live so close to "The Liar's Den Lodge & Something Catchy". A short commute? Google gave me the giggles with that pic!

      And somehow I can see you riding a Harley (or hoping to own one), enjoying your individualism dressed in orange and black Harley gear, like every other Harley rider?

      Your sophomoric views of, well, probably everything, precludes any desire to continue this.

      JP

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    15. Well Justin....I called you out. You threatened me with death for opposing the murderous nation of Israel. You are a neocon. You are worse than any true enemy as your type hide amongst your fellow citizens.

      So....your ad hominem attacks continue....you denigrate the American company Harley-Davidson, a national icon employing thousands of Americans.

      You attack my neighbor for being an entepreneur. You attack a fellow American for owning a business and dreaming the American dream. You then tell me I'm not worth the gas or time "to debate". Well tough guy, you threatened MY life ! I challenged you to pay me a visit not for a debate with tea and crumpets. Would you like me to pay for your fuel ? Do I need to send you the cash for the rounds you threatened to kill me with ?

      Oh....and just like your fellow neocon RegT, you've chosen to ignore the intentional, murderous attack by your beloved Israelis against the USS Liberty on 8 JUN 67.

      "Combat hours" in flight you claim ? Hmmmm......so tell us, how many air engagements do you have against MIGS or SUKHOIS ? Flying a cargo plane at 20,000 feet over the goats and rocks of the 'stan may qualify you for "combat hours" per Air Force regs. But it doesn't impress me. I find your "combat hours" to be another facade by the Air Farce on how tough you cargo A/C guys have it.

      So, the one thing I will agree with you is that continuing communication with you, via this blog, is not worth it. I've made my point and you've helped me make it....

      There are enemies amongst us.

      DAN III

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  4. Thanks for that RegT. I have tried and tried to convince others and I feel like I'm just talking to folks that want to keep their heads in the sand. It's infuriating because I think they will cost me much. Their choice to remain ignorant means people like us will have to pay dearly. It makes me feel helpless. I only can pray that God will remember and show special protection to those of us who have tried to make a difference.

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    1. I work with some highly intelligent people, but I'm constantly amazed at their ignorance concerning current events and their government. A common refrain: "our government would never do something like that!". Occasionally, one of them will overcome their media induced programming and pay attention, then come to me and say something like "Wow, you were really spot on with that prediction".

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  5. I'm ready let’s take the war to them now this year. The longer we wait the stronger there getting and the weaker we have gotten. Lets stop them from killing our boys in war that we should not be in and the strangle hold they have put on American citizens. Let the citizen of the United States unite as one and give the politician there war and let them pay the bill this time with there blood. This will show the rest of the world what happens to dishonest politicians in our country and the price they will pay for not supporting what the majority of the people want.
    God Bless America

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  6. I predict two things:

    1. The treaty will fail, either by not being brought to the floor for a vote at all, or by failing to pass the 2/3 margin needed for treaty adoption.

    2. There will be no executive order outlawing guns, or begining of martial law, or round up of dissadents at this time.

    None of this is going to happen this week.

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  7. Those in power are rats, the flunkies they command not so much so. If you want to stop this coming Armageddon, don't take out the flunkies, start taking out the rats. Several of our more-noted "radicals" have already written about such a strategy. When the rats start disappearing, one after another, the remaining rats will dive off the sinking ship of their corruption in droves. They savor their own freedom more than they do the fleeing power they have.

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  8. Barack Obama is not to blame for pursuing the plans he has so readily and overtly had from the beginning.
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    He is as responsible for his actions as anyone else is.
    He has enacted policy that harms people and that is wrong.

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  9. Justin,

    Don't waste your time replying to such a juvenile, closed mind. It isn't worth it. He pretends to be in favor of liberty, but only for those he approves of. He is a child, either in body or in mind, or both. He will never grow up enough to admit that he is an anti-Semitic infant who loves to suck up to Kerodin and everywhere else he posts in an attempt to gain a little legitimacy. Everyone laughs at him behind his back. I laugh at him to his fourteen year-old face.

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    1. So tell me RegT, who is everyone laughing behind my back. Oh....and you're laughing to my face. You've got my address. Instead of your ad hominem attacks here, you are welcome to bring it to my doorstep.

      I have no use for your support of foreign countries, in particular the American murdering Israelis.

      Now, don't forget to tell me who is laughing behind my back and why. In fact I'll ask you to post examples of people laughing behind my back both here and at Mr. Kerodin's blog.

      You've got my address....

      DAN III

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    2. RegT. Apparently, you are a closet progressive because you participate in this ad hominem rhetoric by using words like "anti-semitic". Next, you'll be calling him a racist. I hear obama is looking for people on his "truth-squads". A shall forward your name(they'll be able to trace your URL) as an able and willing candidate...

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    3. Yea Reggie, I believe in Liberty and Freedom accorded me in the American Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. I'm not interested in "others" freedom who are not Americans. 58,000+ Americans died in Vietnam for "freedom". Freedom to destroy our sovereignty and self-sufficiency so that years later the Commie Vietnamese can flood our shores with textiles and clothing no longer made by Americans ?

      I want freedom from infantile, progressives like you who have more love for a foreign country, Israel, than your own.

      Now excuse me while I head over to Kerodin's blog to kiss his ass.

      DAN III

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    4. Well RegT, I asked you to back up your statements that there are many laughing behind my back. You hide behind the cloak of anonymity and dare to say you laugh at MY face ?

      My doorstep awaits your arrival. Then you can truly, actually laugh in my face. In the meantime you can post commentary of those you claim laugh behind my back at me.

      DAN III
      "There Are Enemies Amongst Us"

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  10. AGAIN, THE CIRCULAR FIRING SQUAD... DOING THE ENEMY'S WORK FOR HIM.

    IDIOTS.

    DO YOU THINK THESE TANTRUMS DO ANYTHING TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE IN?

    I'M NOT LAUGHING. I'M SCREAMING AT YOU IN WHITE HOT RAGE!!!

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    1. Good point! Unfortunately, the dirty laundry needs to be aired out now, not later. That way, we all have an idea where we stand.

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    2. Mr. Oughtsix....if you are making reference to my exchange with the neocon globalists, RegT and Justin Paign, perhaps you should question their values ? Perhaps you should ask why those who call themselves American patriots worship at the alter of foreign entanglements and commitments to provide American blood and treasure for Israel and other countries.

      I challenge you sir, to open your eyes and ears and understand those who support Israel and other foereign nations do so with the blood of offer of your friend's and children's blood and our treasure.

      Circular firing squad ? We have enemies of Freedom and Liberty amongst us. Witness Justin Paign calling for my blood and demise because I oppose support for the American murdering Israelis.

      When will Americans say "enough" to war and foreign entanglements ?

      There are enemies amongst us.....

      DAN III

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  11. I will gladly stand with Dan lll, Kerodin, and others of their ilk. Better it is to be with those who are passionate about our Country and saving it than someone who cares more about staying PC with a nation that would just as soon watch us fall as be "buddies" with us.

    RedWulf

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  12. You don't like the Israelis? Put away your cell phone,
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    What next, gonna call him a German WWII dictator?
    Infant minds everywhere.

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  13. Justin, and other blind supporters of the Israeli state: Do you really think the Israeli gov has the principles of liberty held in esteem. The Israeli people and gov are about as like minded as the Russian people vs the communist state. If you insist on blindly supporting the Israeli state at the expense of the Israeli people, because of the bad brown people, you've entirely missed the point of liberty. Pack up your toys and go home.

    The Israeli people consist of jews, christians, and muslims. Incidentally, the Israeli state has implicitly and explicitly supported persecution of not only muslims (your dirty brown people), but also christians. A christian family had their shop burned down by hard-liners nearly killing several. The suspect was known in the community, but no investigation was conducted. The Israeli state's concept of liberty would be little recognizable if you really understood the nuance.

    The fact is, the Israeli state, (and BiBi - more like Putin than anyone else I can think of) acts in complete contradiction to the long term and short term benefit of Israeli citizens.

    Saying you blindingly support the state of Israel is the EXACT SAME logic as blaming the shootings in Aurora, CO on lax gun laws. You are the same.

    Oh, and liberty and justice under the law should be for all people, no matter what skin color, or god they pray to.

    Go educate yourself, read this: http://web.hks.harvard.edu/publications/workingpapers/citation.aspx?PubId=3670


    -people_are_stupid

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  14. Americans invented the telephone and the cell phone, not Israelis.

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/inventions/who-invented-the-cell-phone.htm

    Even if an Israeli had invented the cell phone, it doesn't mean I have to support Israel. I like Chinese buffets, doesn't mean I have to support China.
    What a stupid argument.

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  15. The patriot movement will be DOA if this is the best we can do. It's pathetic. Support Israel, don't support Israel. If we can't get past this one small thing what chance do we really have?

    I am sure there were different opinions on the French becoming our ally during the American Revolution. Thank God they were able to put their differences aside and see it through to victory.

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    1. Sir/Madam,

      I'm OPPOSED to American blood and treasure being peed down the commode of foreign entanglements. How many more body bags do we need to come home before Americans such as you say enough ?

      BTW....Israel and other foreign aid and entanglements has cost us trillions of dollars over the years. Its no small thing.

      DAN III

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    2. Dan,

      I Respect your opinion. Clearly, you are an isolationist and feel very strongly about it. I get it. Heck, for the most part I agree with you. But, if things are about to get ugly as TL suggests then we need to set aside our differences (for now) and get ready for what is coming.

      -DJ

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    3. Dear DJ,

      You mean set aside differences like FDR did when he allied America with the butcher Josef Stalin's Union of Soviet Socialist Republics ?

      "Isolationist"....isn't that the derogatory term you neocons enjoy employing against Americans who believe in the Constitution and founding fathers warnings about foreign entanglements ? The USA in intervening in more than a 100 nations with a military presence. We are fighting in three wars. We've been constantly at war for 70 years.

      "Isolationist". How I shake my head in disgust at the use of that term against Americans who decry the imperialistic mentality of so many like you. My guess is you've never swore an oath to the Constitution. But you'll gladly endorse the imperialist ventures by this nation in the civil wars of other nations. You'll gladly endorse the arrival of more of America's finest at Dover AFB encased in body bags. You'll gladly endorse the wounded and maimed coming home to never live a normal life again. You'll gladly endorse the outpouring of hundreds of billions of American fiat dollars to corrupt regimes across the globe, while 10s of millions of Americans are without family sustaining jobs. You'll gladly support our government's warring in the Middle East while our Congress and the illegal POTUS openly invite the destruction of our nation by refusing to shut our borders to illegals and remove by force every goddammed illegal in this country.

      I'm a non-interventionist. I believe in fair trade with other nations and I believe in keeping our military at home for DEFENSE.

      DAN III
      "There are enemies amongst us"

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    4. Holy Crap!

      Where did you come up with all that? I basically agreed with you and called for some unity.

      I have taken the oath of service. I have a CIB and my son has a CIB and Purple Heart so I have skin in the game.

      Don't project your own personal boogieman onto people you don't know.

      Have you ever had to make sacrifices for our nation? Have you ever had to take orders and work as a unit with people who are not the exact mirror of your own personality and values?

      Your right. There are enemies among us. They seek to divide us and cause discontent in our ranks.

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    5. You went down the road of spouting the neocon mantra of calling me an isolationist. That's where I decided you are just another facade on the face of liberty. While you responded to me suggesting I sing Kumbaya with the traitorous likes of Justin and RegT, I notice you are fine with the vile threats of my murder expressed by Justin against me. Odd, you didn't challenge Justin unbelievably scary threats against another American's life.

      You never agreed with me. You only commented half-ass that I should kiss the hand of those who would see me dead. Now you want to play the victim of my above reply to you. Amazing how you chastise me but you give the neocons Justin and RegT a pass.

      DAN III
      "There Are Enemies Amongst Us"

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    6. Dan,

      I am starting to wonder if we are both having the same conversation.

      I do not consider Isolationist to be an insult or slant. It was not meant to be. I personally have some Isolationist views.

      I thought I was speaking out against all the threats posted here. Not any particular one. Nor was I giving anyone a pass.

      Never have I seen American Patriots treat each other as they have here. I am disappointed and in fear for the future of our nation. We are it's best hope and we seem to be our own worst enemy.

      Best of luck to you Dan.

      -DJ

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    7. Mr. DJ,

      Odd how we see things differently. While you claim you were speaking out against all the threats here, I see you still have not commented against Justin Paign's vicious and vile threats toward me. Instead you want to carry on a dialogue regarding my comment while ignoring the unbelievable viciousness of Justin Paign.

      You make reference to "American Patriots". How in hell do you justify including Justin Paign and RegT in the category of "American Patriots" ? These are citizens who attack and threaten fellow Americans for opposing a FOREIGN country. Seems the definition of "patriot" has changed over the years. Witness Justin Paign declaring himself a "patriot" by supporting the foreign nation of Israel !

      Your reasoning perplexes me. Your failure to use definitive comments, rather than rhetoric, tells me you have few convictions. How sad.

      DAN III
      "There are enemies amongst us"

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    8. It's like trying to reason with a brick wall.

      I am beginning to understand why no one replies to your posts.

      Clearly anyone who does not agree with your personal beliefs 100 percent (not 99.9% or 99.7%) is a traitor and "sad".

      Congradulations Dan. You may have found the one topic that can actually divide the 3 percenters right down the middle and that is Israel.

      Stay classy. I will not be replying further but feel free to show off for your buddies if you have any.

      -DJ 1.5% (thanks to Dan)
      "There are idiots amongst us"

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  16. Depends on what you mean by *getting past* I suppose.
    Also, the french didn't join until AFTER the lead started flying and at that point personal opinions were different.

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    1. Yes, the french didn't openly support our revolution until after the Battle of Saratoga in 1777.

      What I mean by getting past is that we shouldn't lose sight of the big picture and start bickering over things like Israel. Anytime you get a group of people together there will always be disagreements. But it is counterproductive to begin threatening each other over small differences when we all basically agree on the importance of personal freedom and the Constitution.

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