Today the world is different. Our nation is different. As Americans we are being pulled in different directions, called on by society to remain silent and acquiescent to the great ramrod of collectivism, or asked to risk everything for principles and ideals that are at the heart of Americanism, but no longer supported by our government(s). Indeed, to demand that the government recognize and operate under these very ideals upon which it is based is considered a threat.
If you believe, if you sing the song of patriotism, if you belong to a Tea Party, or 912, or American Legion for heaven's sake, you must side with one or the other. The time is now. And yes, I do recognize that your life is substantially unchanged from a decade ago, that it is easy to see how one might get through the Obama Administration and work to reverse some of the greatest abuses, but will the TSA come to an end? No. Will the IRS stop their abusive, arrogant treatment of the citizen? No. Will EPA, USDA stop the endless assault on the engines of prosperity? No. These are functions of an oppressive government, of tyranny and their work will never be done.
The monstrous DHS has only begun to collect, evaluate and act on information it is gathering right now. If these actions were being done to the Jewish community, the Islamic community, the Gay community there would be outrage, yet when done to the patriotic community, those willing to risk everything they have in the pursuit of Constitutional government, legal government, ratified government it goes on apace without outrage, with sympathizers cowering in fear of what? Of their government. Is that American? Is that what our children have died for over the centuries? They have died in vain, it seems, for we have given up the price they paid for our freedom without a ruckus, without a whimper.
We know how the government treats patriots, those who would question their authority and it is always with brutality, with hammering down those who rise up against their abuses. The patriot community does not rise up against taxation, written into the Constitution; it does not rise up against traffic laws against speeding, red lights or yielding to emergency vehicles; it does not rise up against sweeping streets, or sewer repairs, or plowing snow. While we might argue that these services could be done better another way, with resources and ways unaffiliated with the government, that is a rational argument to be hashed out within the confines of our civic duty.
No, the Patriot Community rises up against those serious abuses inflicted upon the citizens of the nation of every color, every religion, every ethic background because they are abuses unto us all. They are abuses against the First Amendment of speech and press and religion and the right to peacefully assemble, of the Second Amendment ensuring that the people are never disarmed should a radical and abusive government take control of the nation, of the Fourth Amendment which guarantees that every citizen will not be detained, searched and randomly harassed without cause and sworn evidence against them, of the Fifth Amendment which guarantees that we will not be forced to give evidence against ourselves, or be put in jeopardy of life, liberty or property without due process of law, of the Sixth Amendment that guarantees that we have the right to confront our accusers, to a speedy and public trial, to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation, of the Eight Amendment against cruel and unusual punishments, of the Ninth Amendment which speaks for itself when it states: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.; of the Tenth Amendment that guarantees that our states shall enjoy the right to act independently of the federal government and to make all laws that do not conflict with those given to the federal government under the agreement of the Constitution.
Every one of these rights are under direct assault by the very existence of the Department of Homeland Security, that they have taken an act described to the people as being necessary to their safety and turned it primarily against the citizenry at large. It is what allows a TSA agent to grope and fondle without recourse, without the protections of the Fourth Amendment. The IRS violates almost every single amendment in one way or the other, demanding without recourse money it arbitrarily decides it is owed, openly admitting that the numbers arrived at are made up, assumed and subsequently demanded from one's bank without warning, without due process.
It is not the street sweeper that has drawn the ire of the Patriot Community, but the outright abuses of so many rights on such a large scale that one cannot avoid the conflict and remain faithful to the ideals of the Constitution. One must either forfeit their belief in the system that has brought us peace and prosperity for centuries, or stand up and fight for them.
We have asked, we have begged, we have voted to reverse this tyranny to no avail. The upcoming election will do nothing other than change figureheads at the top, the bureaucracy will not change, the abuses will not lessen, the inevitable bankruptcy will not be avoided under any congressional leadership that remains faithful to the system as it now functions. It is this understanding that has driven the movement and must sustain it through the dark times to come.
When a government has become so destructive of everything it has been established to protect and defend, it has become an enemy to itself and must be opposed and exposed for what it is, no matter how it transformed, under what auspices it used to make that transformation, it must be recognized for what it is and altered, or abolished.
We can say that it is no one's fault, that human nature dictated the outcome, that it was inevitable that all forms of government end in tyranny. Okay, but that does not change the outcome, or diminish the cruel practices of the government today. That belief should only encourage those who have not yet acted, to act.
PatCom(n)s are action against tyranny. They are the first steps toward outright confrontation with those jealous of our rights, who trample and discard them. PatCom(n)s should enjoy the overwhelming support of every American who desires a rectification of the federal and state governments who now act in concert, a law passed by one is duplicated by another under duress and threat. What cannot be done through the Tenth Amendment is by-passed through coercion among these governments and the citizen is betrayed twice and left to curse and nothing else is allowed, or tolerated.
If you consider yourself patriotic, a believer in the Constitution and its defense, but are afraid to step out and make a stand, afraid of your government and what it can do to you, I suggest you at least support these groups who have accepted the risk, made that great step toward liberty regardless of personal cost or imprisonment. Give them the support they need to sustain themselves through the tribulations, for God's sake at least make an anonymous donation to those willing to do the hard and dangerous work of going to battle with the forces of oppression.
No, I don't have a Pay Pal account for you to donate to, you might have to do a little work in that regard. You might have to do an Internet search to find a place. Yes, you can go on with your life without making any commitments whatsoever. No one will know, but the effect of inaction is already all around you. Do you like what you see? I don't.
Another masterpiece, clear as a bell. I'm guessin' you didn't set out to be a leader, but that's how it goes. Not many men can step into that, but you're the exception that proves the rule. Nice job.
ReplyDelete"No one will know..." That's NEVER true, because the actor himself ALWAYS knows. This is the key to all of ethics.
http://selfadoration.com/ManAlive
Look....the solution lies in terminating the political leadership. Nothing more. Nothing less.
ReplyDeleteDAN III
Pennsylvania
I often read, as in your piece, reference to "government", as though it is some inanimate object. As though "government" is some non-bleeding, non-breathing, inhuman entity that just exists. Well, its not just there. It is an organization of fellow citizens who conjure up rules and regulations and abuses against their fellow citizens. The constant reference to "government" without reference to the scoundrels, the citizens, the PEOPLE who comprise this living, breathing, human beast smacks of a facade. Do not excuse the scum who are fellow cifizens, by refering to them as "government". Doing such only breeds a mentality of not holding these elected, appointed and hired scoundrels accountable for their tyrannical misdeeds against the people of this nation who are it's citizens.
ReplyDeleteI would suggest one starts applying a living, breathing face to the term "government". "Government" are fellow citizens who have chosen to steal our liberty and freedom. They are human beings commiting a disservice against their fellow citizens.
Stop using the neutral term of "government". That term provides a subconsious excuse for fellow cifizens who perpetrate tyranny and authoritarian abuse against us every single day.
DAN III
Pennsylvania
Dan, my point is that all government, no matter who is involved in it. I know you would prefer it to be more personal, but the abstract is the beast at which I strike, because it does not change. The French Revolution included the beheadings of everyone in government, but the new government was worse than the first.
DeleteI have written about those specifically in government who do the dirty deeds, but for my point naming them, describing them doesn't substantially change the message, when it does, I will.
Mr. D,
DeleteThe point I made effort to make is that the constant use, in the abstract, of the term "government", when referencing tyranny at the very same hands of those we call government, appears to me to relieve those taking the King's Shilling, of any responsibility for the mess this once great country is in.
Are there not good people taking the King's Shilling for all the reasons cited by you ? Certainly. But I argue that such good, well-meaning, public servants are in the minority. The bulk of public servants no longer serve the populace. Rather they have become self-serving. Witness the government union thugs and government teachers who greedily and selfishly attacked Governor Walker of Wisconsin, for Walker's efforts to reign in uncontrolled spending and looting of Wisconsin's treaury at the hands of these public employees. Perhaps there were some good public employees amongst the crowds of thugs who occupied the state capitol building ? Perhaps.
Guilt by association. It's not that simple but that is what it boils down to.
After all, in Adolf Hitler's Third Reich, not all Nazis were bad. They were just members of a political party, like Democrats and Republicans, right ?
There is no easy answer as to whom amongst those fellow citizens comprising "government", share culpability in the stealing of freedom and destruction of our Constitution. But the apparent remains, those fellow citizens within the behemoth we call government, are guilty by association. For they, with or witbout malice, work to eradicate our freedom and liberty everyday.
DAN III
Pennsylvania
government does not do evil. People who work for government do evil. Government does not show up at your door to hassle, arrest or kill you. Individual people show up. These people live somewhere. They have families, they have property, they have possessions. They want to be "secure in their home and their possessions" like the rest of us, but they get a "by" bc they are in w the in-crowd.
DeleteWell maybe the out-crowd should show up & have them experience some of their own behavior.
>My name is Legion, for we are many. Expect us.<
Dan: That is dead-on accurate, sir.
ReplyDeletePeople are the problem.
Bad people.
And those people must answer for their crimes against the rest of us.
Kerodin
III
I sure agree with Dan about this. "I see nothing but individuals out there." It must never be forgotten, because the main part of the whole con is that it's something else. Simply put, in this regard there is nothing else.
ReplyDeleteThe touchier point is "answering for their crimes." Yes, they're crimes and yes, there are a zillion "arguments" in favor of that. I know because I've heard them all, and every one will reduce to the Fallacy of Tu Quoque ("You did it"). Retaliation is not defense, no matter how many people scream that it is.
"One must either forfeit their belief in the system that has brought us peace and prosperity for centuries, or stand up and fight for them."
ReplyDeleteThe SYSTEM has brought neither.
Prosperity has occurred IN SPITE OF, not as a result of "the system". Prosperity has occurred simply because individuals are able to figure out means to raise their standard of living, in spite of constant attacks by the system. You know that, firsthand. Now, the attacks are more ubiquitous, more concentrated, while "pursuing invariably the same Object...a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism".
Peace? Not so much. Can one name a 25 year period without armed conflict? No? How about a 10 year period? Nope.
The system IS the problem. Conceived, designed, and operated that way; in such a manner that avenues for redress are simply a waste of time and energy.
"No matter who you vote for, the government gets elected"(Twain)
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Internal peace, not external war. And, I disagree, it is the system of freedom as first put to practice that attracted talent, that enabled free people to pursue profits and that was established by the system. Or, it would have been everywhere no matter what the system. Russia lost its entrepreneur class while it focused on science alone.
Delete"If you consider yourself patriotic, a believer in the Constitution and its defense, but are afraid to step out and make a stand, afraid of your government and what it can do to you.....,"
ReplyDeleteConfession - I am slightly afraid as I have a family to care for but; that said I am also afraid of the country being formed before my very eyes by the jack-a-napes in power. So afraid that it overrides the previous fear. I understand Kerodin is doing an Alabama PATCOM in Oct. this year - long time from now and much can and probably will happen before then but I think I may need to be there.
I would like to briefly explain my reasons and if they match with your tribes (PATCOM) ideas fine, if not I will find another way to join in the fight for Liberty.
1. First and foremost I am a believer in Jesus Christ who has given me the ultimate Liberty - salvation.
2. I really believe God allowed the United States to come into being because under it's laws and moral/governmental set-up mankind could be as free as is possible in a sin sick and fallen world.
3. This freedom allows us to pursue Him first...and our own God-given human potential second. This system gives us maximum freedom to pursue the talents and skills He gave us to the point of excellence. I believe that is why we are the best nation on the face of the earth, why we have been a nation with great innovation and charity un-heard of in the annals of history.
4. Allowing tyrants to dictate my life is a perversion and will not/can not aid me or my children in being everything that God created us for. Leaders have a responsibility to govern over God's people with fairness, equity and within legal and moral bounds. When they ignore this part of the contract with their restrictions on freedom and their rampant corruption it becomes a restiction on life itself as it is them making themselves as gods, false gods. And false gods who must be opposed for their wickedness and abuse of the position God allows them to occupy. That is why freedom is and should be precious to me and my kids. That is why I want to join the fight. It is all about God - but He does allow human agency to act in this world and now may be that time for me in the larger picture.
My primary reasons are faith based and I make no apology, but this does not mean I would expect everyone to be Christian and live as I do. I am a big boy and can take people disagreeing with me because I also believe God does not force faith on us; so I wouldn't force it on you or the movement - that is the beauty of the gift of free-will God himself gave mankind. I may have opinions and would express them. But as long as the tribe did not set itself up as false gods and go against God's commands I believe I could in good conscience be a part. It is the struggle Bonhoeffer faced and came to the same conclusion - godless evil must be opposed.
I like what you say and think the time has come to make a stand. Not afraid any longer so I will not be some anon behind a keboard, if I paint a target on my head so be it.
Robbie Palmer
Chilton County Alabama
PS - Just in case DHS reads this, please call before you visit so I can make some sweet tea for our litttle chat.
In my opinion, we have three choices: 1) do nothing and become serfs; 2) revolution; 3) secession (which probably would differ little, in a material sense, from option #2). I think #3 is the most desirable course of action because the States have a legitimate history as sovereign entities. The current system is beyond reform simply because those who need reforming the most are in control of all the normal avenues of reform. They are not going to let you reform them out of their wealth and power.--Michael Hill
ReplyDeleteDan III's comment should be a front-page post of its own - he's ABSOLUTELY right.
ReplyDelete...(here it comes)...
...BUT...
While there *ARE* some truly evil people out there, the OVERWHELMING majority are decent if dull people, just trying to get through a day so they can go on about their lives.
Most of them differ little from us - or from the average, sleeping "sheeple" - in any way that matters except for perhaps an utter lack of passion in their lives for much of anything.
Those who have never worked in a .gov office really have NO CLUE how utterly dysfunctional they are - if you did you'd see that we really have very little to fear from them as most couldn't collectively find *ANY* (much less "THEIR OWN") backside with both hands and a roadmap!!
Honestly, having seen what I have in my life and career I'm amazed that most .gov agencies manage to do anything at all!
The BIGGEST problem there is that all of the "drones" -- the WORKERS who actually accomplish what little gets accomplished -- are all utterly browbeaten by "the system" into just keeping their heads down and counting the days to retirement.
More than anything else it is **THE UNIONS** that are the consummate enemy, as THEY are the ones responsible for making sure reform can never happen!
I've always said that if every TAXPAYER had to spend one month working in a .gov office which most closely matched their area of expertise, we'd have revolution a long time ago!
I worked as a "consultant" to a large Fed.gov agency for a year - and ended up FORCED to get the frick out of there before I lost my MIND! I just can't describe the rampant waste, fraud and abuse that was endemic to the CULTURE!
I'd say at least 90% of the "drones" were in reality good people who were just trying to do the best they could in an environment that was VIRULENTLY hostile to anyone who dared stick their head above their cubicle-wall...
Here again, it was THE MANAGERS and UP who were responsible for the sick "culture" - and a good 90% of THEM were STELLAR examples of "The Peter Principle" in action. A majority of them were the sort of petty little dictator we see stereotyped in every illustration of .gov abuse of citizens - except THEY were generally abusive of their "underlings" and thus ultimately responsible for the utterly broken culture that typifies their utterly broken "agency."
Our .gov is so utterly broken because it's made up of these utterly broken agencies...
That a good 90%+ of .gov workers are actually incompetent - and not deliberately malicious - doesn't change the OUTCOME (tyranny) one bit - but we will NEVER be able to fix it BY ANY MEANS unless we figure out how to change the CULTURE.
Otherwise, what results will be no different in the outcome...
Bottom line - while Dan is 100% RIGHT, he doesn't quite get narrow enough. Even the worker-drones - while absolutely "Government" - are not our enemy.
The REAL enemy is what I call "The Government (or govern-ING) CLASS"
THESE people are The Enemy.
If we could - somehow - replace all of THEM, the worker-drones would just as happily work to the new standards set for them.
THEY are - first and foremost, obviously - the "political class", and ultimately the cadre of "directors" on down to the "management" level. It is THEY who determine the direction of the "agency" and decide what the "mission" will be...
The only problem with what you have said, to me, Dad, is that I wouldn't work in government, so who are you going to get to do that sort of work? Exactly the same people who do it now. They might be doing different things, but it would always be the same people seeking the safest, dullest, unchallenging work of government.
ReplyDeleteTL and Dad,
ReplyDeleteDad is correct in much of what he says, but there are a few of us who worked in government jobs who truly tried to do our jobs. I worked for almost nine years as an RN at the VA, helping vets as best I could, as well as the system would allow me to do so. I cheated often, breaking "rules" established by the supervisors and managers and department heads and directors, just to get the vets the care they needed.
I was punished, given time off without pay and a black mark on my record (including getting black-balled from any future employment by the Director) for refusing to record false data, made-up statistics that would have reduced the level of care my vets would receive (but increase the bonuses the Director and managers would get).
I quit five months short of being able to retire, because I could not tolerate the changes they were making that cut the care the vets could get, vets that were coming back from Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan who were committing suicide because of what they had seen and lived through over there.
I just want you to know that there are others, nurses and aides and others who still work there, in spite of the horrible treatment they get from their bosses and the substandard care they are required to give the vets, only because they know that if they don't stay, the vets will get even worse treatment than now.
So some of those folks - very few, I admit, but some - are truly trying to do what is right, in spite of a system that cuts them off at the knees every chance it gets. Keep them in your prayers.
There you go. The "They." You want local, here is local. These are the fedgov people that will be fucking your shit up if you keep mouthing off. Pussies. Bring it if you got balls.
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Preet Bharara, USA*
One St. Andrews Plaza
New York, NY 10007
300 Quarropas Street, Third Floor
White Plains, NY 10601
William J. Hochul, Jr., USA*
138 Delaware Ave.
Buffalo, NY 14202
Web Site | Press Releases
620 Federal Building
100 State Street
Rochester, NY 14614
NORTH CAROLINA
ReplyDeleteThomas G. Walker, USA*
310 New Bern Avenue, Suite 800
Terry Sanford Federal Building & US Courthouse
Raleigh, NC 27601-1461
Ripley Rand, USA*
P.O. Box 1858
Greensboro, NC 27402
Web Site | Press Releases
251 North Main Street, Suite 726
Winston-Salem, NC 27101
Anne Tompkins, USA*
227 West Trade Street, Suite 1650
Charlotte, NC 28202
Web Site | Press Releases
Room 233, U.S. Courthouse
100 Otis Street
Asheville, NC 28801
NORTH DAKOTA
Timothy Q. Purdon, USA*
655 First Ave. North , Suite 250
Fargo, ND 58102-4932
Web Site | Press Releases
William L. Guy Federal Building
220 East Rosser Avenue, Room 372
Bismarck, ND 58501
OHIO
Steven M. Dettelbach, USA*
801 West Superior Avenue, Suite 400
Cleveland, OH 44113-1852
2 South Main Street
Akron, OH 44308
Suite 308, Four Seagate Third Floor
Toledo, OH 43604
City Centre One
100 E. Federal Plaza, Suite 325
Youngstown, OH 44503
Carter M. Stewart, USA*
303 Marconi Boulevard Suite 200,
Columbus, OH 43215
Web Site | Press Releases
Federal Building
200 W. Second Street #600
Dayton, OH 45402
221 East 4th Street, Suite 400
Cincinnati, OH 45202
OKLAHOMA
Mark F. Green, USA*
1200 West Okmulgee
Muskogee, OK 74401
Thomas Scott Woodward, USA
110 West 7th Street, Suite 300
Tulsa, OK 74119
Web Site | Press Releases
Sanford Coats, USA*
Suite 400, 210 West Park Avenue
Oklahoma City, OK 73102
Web Site | Press Releases
OREGON
S. Amanda Marshall, USA*
Mark O. Hatfield U.S. Courthouse
1000 SW Third Avenue, Suite 600
Portland, OR 97204-2902
405 E. 8th Avenue
Suite 2400
Eugene, OR 97401-2708
310 West 6th St
Medford, OR 97501
PENNSYLVANIA
Zane D. Memeger, USA*
615 Chestnut Street, Ste. 1250
Philadelphia, PA 19106
Peter J. Smith, USA*
Suite 220, Federal Building
228 Walnut Street
Harrisburg , PA 17108-1754
Herman T. Schneebeli Federal Building
240 West Third Street, Suite 316
Williamsport, PA 17701-6465
David J. Hickton, USA*
U. S. Post Office & Courthouse
700 Grant Street
Suite 4000
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
Federal Courthouse
Room A330
17 South Park Row
Erie, PA 16501-1158
Suite 200, Penn Traffic Building
319 Washington Street
Johnstown, PA 15901
PUERTO RICO
Rosa E. Rodriguez-Velez , USA
Torre Chardon , Suite 1201
350 Carlos Chardon Avenue
San Juan, PR 00918
RHODE ISLAND
Peter F. Neronha, USA*
Fleet Center
50 Kennedy Plaza, 8th Floor
Providence, RI 02903
SOUTH CAROLINA
William N. Nettles, USA*
First Union Building
1441 Main Street, Suite 500
Columbia, SC 29201
SOUTH DAKOTA
Brendan V. Johnson, USA*
Sioux Falls, SD 57101-2638
337 Federal Bldg & US Courthouse
225 S. Pierre St.
Pierre, SD 57501
201 Federal Bldg & US Courthouse
515 Ninth Street
Rapid City, SD 57701
TENNESSEE
William C. Killian, USA*
800 Market Street, Suite 211
Knoxville, TN 37902
1110 Market Street, Suite 301
Chattanooga, TN 37402
220 West Depot Street
Greeneville, TN 37743
208 Sunset Drive, Suite 509
Johnson City, TN 37604
Jerry E. Martin, USA*
110 Ninth Avenue, South, Suite A961
Nashville, TN 37203
817 S. Garden Street, Room 205
Columbia, TN 37083
Edward L. Stanton, III, USA*
800 Clifford Davis Federal Office Building
Memphis, TN 38103
109 S. Highland, Suite 300
Jackson, TN 38301
TEXAS
ReplyDeleteJohn Malcolm Bales, USA*
350 Magnolia Avenue, Suite 150
Beaumont, TX 77701-2237
Sarah R. Saldaña, USA*
1100 Commerce Street, Third Floor
Dallas, TX 75242-1699
Amarillo Nat'l Plaza Two
500 South Taylor St.
Amarillo, TX 79101-2446
801 Cherry Street, Unit 4
Burnett Plaza, Ste. 1700
Ft. Worth, TX 76102-6897
1205 Texas Ave., Ste. 700
U.S. Federal Building
Lubbock, TX 79401-4002
Kenneth Magidson, USA *
Houston, TX 77208
U.S. Courthouse
600 East Harrison, Suite 201
Brownsville, TX 71406
One Shoreline Plaza South Tower,
800 N Shoreline Blvd., Suite 500
Corpus Christi, TX 78401
Bentsen Tower
1701 West Hwy 83, Suite 600
McAllen, TX 73341
Robert L. Pitman, USA*
601 N.W. Loop 410, Suite 600
San Antonio, TX 78216
2500 N. Highway 118
Suite A200
Alpine, TX 79830
816 Congress Avenue
Suite #1000
Austin, TX 78701
111 East Broadway
Room A300
U.S. Courthouse
Del Rio, TX 78840
700 East San Antonio Ave., Suite 200
El Paso, TX 79901
400 W. Illinois Street, Suite 1200
Midland, TX 79702
410 S. Cedar
Room 255
U. S. Courthouse
Pecos, TX 79772 (Unstaffed)
800 Franklin, Suite 280
Waco, TX 76701
UTAH
David Barlow, USA *
185 South State Street, Suite 300
Salt Lake City, UT 84111
VERMONT
Tristram J. Coffin, USA*
Burlington, VT 05402
VIRGIN ISLANDS
Ronald W. Sharpe, USA*
Federal Building and, U. S. Courthouse, Room 260
5500 Veterans Drive
St. Thomas, VI 00802-6424
1108 King Street, Suite 201, Christiansted
St. Croix, VI 00820-4951
VIRGINIA
Neil H. MacBride, USA*
2100 Jamieson Ave
Alexandria, VA 22314
World Trade Center
101 W. Main Street, Suite 8000
Norfolk, VA 23510
Main Street Centre
600 E. Main Street, Suite 1800
Richmond, VA 23219
Fountain Plaza Three
Suite 300
721 Lakefront Commons
Newport News, Virginia 23606
Timothy J. Heaphy, USA*
310 First Street, S.W. Room 906
180 W. Main Street
Abingdon, VA 24210
255 West Main Street, Room 104
Charlottesville, VA 22901
WASHINGTON
Michael Ormsby, USA*
Jenny A. Durkan, USA*
700 Stewart Street Suite 5220
Seattle, WA 98101-1271
1201 Pacific Avenue, Suite 700
Tacoma, WA 98402
WEST VIRGINIA
William J. Ihlenfeld, II, USA*
Federal Center
320 West Pike Street, Suite 300
Clarksburg, WV 26301-2710
R. Booth Goodwin, II, USA*
WISCONSIN
James Santelle, USA*
530 Federal Building
517 East Wisconsin Avenue
Milwaukee, WI 53202
John William Vaudreuil, USA*
660 West Washington Avenue, Suite 303
Madison, WI 53703
WYOMING
Christopher A. Crofts, USA*
Cheyenne, WY 82003-0668
What you going to do about it? Nothing? That’s what I thought. So shut the fuck up. You are owned, and a victim at this point, admit it. Republic of Texas….hahahahahhaahah! Fuck you.
Who are these people? There are no titles. If you came to make threats against public speech, I wish you would have the guts to list your name. I have mine right up front.
DeleteI don't need a disguise. Is it your suggestion that I should contact these people? That I should ask them how they feel about my words?
I am not afraid of names, of threats. I am here. Let them come.
TL - I googled some and they are all head justices in the various states.
ReplyDelete(I am NOT the annon who posted thos BTW - and like you am curious about the poster's intent)
Add a few millions to that list and it'll be getting close, even as it's true that most of them are doing what they're doing for underlying decent reasons...just trying to live their lives safely and comfortably, and protect their families. Insane pension benefits don't hurt the incentive either, on the simple level.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure which millions, though, because I don't know the exact point of the list and I don't know who posted this, let alone why.
A transparent society tends toward being a decent society, in just the same way that an armed society tends toward being a polite (not to mention safer) society.
People who wear black hoods when they engage their thuggery, are being the opposite of transparent. Granted, so are anonymous posters, but it's quite a different sort of non-transparency. Here's a single paragraph by Rand on the underlying fundamentals to the big problem [emphasis hers]...
"Now consider the extent of the moral and political inversion in today's prevalent view of government. Instead of being a protector of man's rights, the government is becoming their most dangerous violator; instead of guarding freedom, the government is establishing slavery; instead of protecting men from the initiators of physical force, the government is initiating physical force and coercion in any manner and issue it pleases; instead of serving as the instrument of OBJECTIVITY in human relationships, the government is creating a deadly, subterranean reign of uncertainty and fear, by means of nonobjective laws whose interpretation is left to the arbitrary decisions of random bureaucrats; instead of protecting men from injury by whim, the government is arrogating to itself the power if unlimited whim--so that we are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is FREE to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by PERMISSION; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human hitory, the sage of rule by brute force."
The government is hurrying to open the biggest data center in history to watch every movement of every private citizen.
Uh...'scuse me, but it's supposed to be the other way around.
Looks like another agent provocateur found your site TL.
ReplyDeleteLittle man, posts threats, incites action, posts a target list,
then hides and watches to see who takes the bait. Block his IP and let him rot. Traitors will be dealt with in due time.
(Our time, not his)
Sandman, agreed. A garden variety progressive. Never quite able to make it among his fellows, he remains a non-person. If he were worth the time, I would not feel pity for him.
DeleteTHE JUDGE'S WIFE
ReplyDeletehttp://www.newswithviews.com/Turtel/joel165.htm
I am sure that there are plenty of .gov people who mean well, but at the end of the day, by their participation, the tyranny of good intentions rule.
" If we are to be mothered, mother must know best. . . . In every age the men who want us under their thumb, if they have any sense, will put forward the particular pretension which the hopes and fears of that age render most potent. They ‘cash in.’ It has been magic, it has been Christianity. Now it will certainly be science. . . . Let us not be deceived by phrases about ‘Man taking charge of his own destiny.’ All that can really happen is that some men will take charge of the destiny of others. . . . The more completely we are planned the more powerful they will be.
Delete. . . .
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. Their very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be ‘cured’ against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.
—C. S. Lewis, God in the Dock
This article touches on something I've been pushing for a long time...
Like the woman in the story, we need to SHUN The Enemy. Refuse to sit next to them in church. Refuse to do business with them - and if they're working for someone else, make sure THEY know why they lost our business!
Refuse to cut their hair, babysit their kids... You name it.
"You know Walt, you seem like a decent enough guy, but... I can't understand how ANY decent man could work for the enslavement of the rest your fellow citizens!
You took a solemn oath to uphold and defend and YOU BREAK IT EVERY DAY, just by showing up at work!
Ergo there's just no way I can be sure you'd ever keep a promise to ME, either!..."
And so on!
If you can't do THIS, how in the hell can you expect us to think you might do any OTHER of the numerous "by any means necessary" thinkgs that might need doing someday??!!
Howdy All,
ReplyDelete1. Interesting post and discussion. Intriqued by the list and intent of poster.
2. This is not just abstract for me. I'm retired US Army, officer, active and Reserve, take my oath to the Constitution seriously, 2 tours in SWA, Sep90-Apr91, 2004 OIF2, shooter, grandather, husband ------
AND local goverment guy. County level road guy. I bitch about the state and federal rules as much as anyone - I have to work with their cr*p. Work directly for 3 elected officals. I push back whenever I can. all public vehicles, according to nanny state law are supposed to have "clean air/ no smoking stickers on them - those in my department don't. Small thing, I know. I live with the people here, they bitch when the road is muddy or dusty or covered with snow. People call me up and wonder when I'm gonna do something about all the trucks driving by their place or do something about the dust- I'm not gonna do anything. they want me to make water run uphill - or at least not on their ground. We see all kinds.
I could go on and on, but I'd like to think I'm on the right side, the PATRIOT side, not the statist gubmnt side. What think thee?
ML27
I think we should have a thousand like you, a million or two. The .gov citizens should be on OUR side, helping us, they know what is wrong and should not acquiesce. They have the information we need, they are sworn as we are, should be as concerned as we are and help us turn this boat around.
DeleteDo what you can, despite the rhetoric, we would appreciate some help here, go to a PatCom, or carry some III business cards.
We enough of you to help, we wouldn't need to do anything but support you.
Do what you can, is all we ask.
Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man. There has never been a really good one,and even those that were most tolerable are arbitrary,cruel,grasping and unintelligent. H.L. Mencken
ReplyDeleteThis I believe sums it up fairly well
Like the rest of you, I am not sure of Anon 10:09's intentions in posting the list of US Attorneys.
ReplyDeleteIt comes from this website:
http://www.justice.gov/usao/about/offices.html
It appears that they are all US Attorneys appointed by obama. I didn't research every one of them, but every one I did research was appointed by obama.