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Saturday, March 24, 2012

One Single Line

If there is one single moment in history that marks the difference between free and slave, between citizen and subject, it is the moment when the Supreme Court decides in favor of Obamacare. It will be the annihilation of those rights and values we hold sacred. The significance of this moment cannot be stressed enough.

I know that lines have been crossed, that the mammoth of tyranny has blundered along, obliviously killing everything in its path for too long, to most of us, but there is another quarter to be considered: the average joe. They need more, they need a line of demarcation. If that is not it, one does not exist, for them.

Patriots, fear not the label. Fear not the obligation. The purpose of the Liberty Summit is to get a commitment from each other, from each group to the other, that there is a point where we stop talking, stop writing and start acting.

Yes, injustice exists at every level of government, at every court, within the breast of every government extremist. It can be no different, but this decision, this moment hinges on the actions of nine people, not gods, not presidents, not elected officials, but people of independent of evil.

If you want the rogues to fear the people there must be some action, there must be a price for our liberty more dear to them than our rights are to us. There is a time to step out of the blue-collar, obedient mold and to do something remarkable, to do something extraordinary. That time will come, I am sure of it and if there is a moment to work in concert, to send a final last warning for the injustices of the past and future, it is on that date that word is given that Obamacare is somehow, inexplicably Constitutional.

Action and survival are not assured. But, one must give of themselves, they must stand firm and resolute behind the principles they claim. I know it is hard, I face some hard times in my future and so do you. There is no way to get out clean, not if the things we claim to hold dear are, in fact, more precious to us than life, fortune and sacred honor.

To date there are 32 individuals attending the Liberty Summit, some are delegates to larger groups, some are individuals with a commitment. There are PatComs across the nation. We are the only actors willing to support our nation; not the police; not the military;  not the officers of the court; not the elected officials, all of whom have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution. They haven't and they won't. They have made their decisions and cast their lot with the powerful and corrupt. We are the real defenders, those who are willing to go beyond the limits the others have set and to do something important, not only for ourselves and our posterity, but for the nations of the world who look to us for guidance on the path to liberty.

If there is one last gasp of the society so carefully created for us by our founders, it is in this moment and no other. Waiting for the chaos caused by economic destruction to lead to self-defense is a waste of time. Prepare to take it back from them, by whatever means necessary. As it has been the duty of the solider to fight on for freedom even when that term seems vague and illusory, it is our obligation to secure the rights bestowed by God and protected by the Constitution. At least we know what it is that we are fighting for. Two generations down the line, if things are done to prevent it, our children's children will look down on liberty and denounce us all as heretics and trouble-makers.

Let them discover our wrath and seek the protections of the document they have so long despised and ridiculed. When there is nothing, they will understand.

17 comments:

  1. Heavy. I love when you write about Liberty, and especially Capitalism. You have a remarkable insight into that IMO. So I hope you'll accept this with that in mind, and indulge my pointing out two errors here.

    First is the "line in the sand" theory. So many lines in the sand have been crossed already, that it's dizzying. Ask Randy Weaver or Mrs. Guerena, or the zillions in between and since. I wrote of this in a comment elsewhere, which was reposted here...

    http://tinyurl.com/89f59za

    Here's the bigger point. "Patriots" or "freedom lovers" or whatever term you want to use, don't get to give the orders. Period; live with it.

    This is a GOOD thing, and it needs to be understood. That's what this is all about, really...who will "give the orders" to a free man or woman? There is only one answer in morality, in justice, in happiness, in HUMAN LIFE---that person himself. This is a FACT and all the tyranny, all the suffering, is just in pursuit of denying this.

    Don't play their game. Their game is about something being bigger or better than one's own life, and that is plainly false. They want to suck you into that principle--the dastardly principle of sacrifice--because that's how they know they can win. Don't let them win. You cannot destroy destruction with more destruction; you can only overpower it with creation. That's what human life is all about, and that's why they're stifling it. It always was about production and Capitalism, and you for one, TL, know this.

    "You cannot rid the world of cannibals by eating them." It is NOT a sacrifice to be willing to lose one's life in defense of himself or those he loves. It is NOT a sacrifice to say, "I am not willing to live as a slave." And let's be real---it's just as wrong to live as a slavemaster as it is a slave; you only get to eat better and have less physical pain. But "not having physical pain" is not the goal of life. Producing, thriving and being happy is that.

    Freedom is not created by destroying tyranny, though stopping it is surely necessary. Freedom is created by creating it; duh. You can only create it one person at a time, and the philosophical principle behind it is that you're worth it. You're worth it, I'm worth it and so is every other person who wants to live as a human. It's up to each individual to either accept this or not. Social freedom is nonsensical outside of the context of individual freedom. We already ARE free and volitional, as a matter of ontological FACT. What's missing is that we're afraid of accepting the INDIVIDUAL responsibility that goes along with that.

    The ones who don't accept it, screw 'em already. Let 'em die; let them destroy themselves in the swill of sacrifice and collectivism. Simply put, jumping into the quicksand with them, will not accomplish anything good.

    There is nothing to argue about here, since I'm only about the facts. But if there are any questions, I'll try to answer. Read your last line. The goal is not for them to realize they left themselves with nothing; it's for us to realize that we've actually got something---our own lives. It's simple math: 1 > 0.

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  2. Remember Mr. Davis, you said it best,
    "If there is one single moment in history that marks the difference between free and slave, between citizen and subject..."
    Well by the grace of God and our Liberty that moment is not the domain of 9 injustices! It is not theirs, nor never has been. It be ours! Just as it is not ours to restore the power of the Constitution. It is ours to show them the wrath of America without the protections the Constitution offers them.
    Let them restore it to find refuge from us. They are the ones who are the direct enablers of tyranny over constitution. It is they who are the sworn guardians, the last line of defense of the sovereign power of the will of the people. If they sell us out on this, as I believe has been the plan all along, everything changes. This will be a unprecedented lawlessness act, an act of ultimate treason. It will be representative of not representative government, but representative of the truth that we the people only matter as long as we are useful tools of an elite ruling class.

    I say, go right ahead, cross that Rubicon you 9 corrupt Bastards. It will tell the unvarnished truth. Truth that there will no longer be any doubt as to what government we do not have.
    There will be no question what we have been served with.

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    1. I always agree with your sentiment MTP, and I agree with it here.

      But really, now...are you saying we haven't been served with it yet? Is there some question about it? Would someone like to claim that we're not past "the tipping point"? What's the difference if they tell the truth or not? You KNOW the truth.

      I guess everyone is saying that the crazy health care legislation is a bigger deal than Vicki Weaver or Jose Guerena or Matthew Speese or any of the thousands and thousands of others. I suppose that's what makes me different---I think that's wrong.

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    2. I know what your saying Jim, and I agree with you too. How to answer you, that's a tough one. I'll give it my best.

      Creeping tyranny verses paradigm shift.

      In my defense of my statement you so thoughtfully commented on Jim, in defense of my desire of hope that in all this disaster created by the political class and their handlers, by our own lack of diligence and attention to out Liberty, there was somebody, or something, a savings grace, that would be a shining light at the end of a very dark tunnel, an inspiration, a catalyst of change for peaceful recourse and redress. Now I want to be clear, and I can only speak for myself in regards to redress. It is a hope I have that recourse by means of peaceful redress has to be retained at all costs to the bitter end. The alternatives are fraught with great disaster and suffering, and I believe once the line is crossed there is no turning back till the Liberty movement is victorious. As I also believe it will ultimately be.
      This is the conundrum. Surely the treason and crimes against Liberty, against our very sovereignty are great and unacceptable. But, there is everything at stake here. Everything we know and love, our prosperity, our homes, our families, the very faith we have, is at stake, not just from the threat of our enemies, but from ourselves. Because when WE the sovereign cross the Rubicon it is going to be an ugly dirty nasty thing full of death and misery.
      My point here is that the question has always been when is it we have had enough, and more important, to venture into realms of redress beyond peaceful, at what point is it a matter of pure self preservation of our Liberty and Freedom? At what point is it that there remains no hope of peaceful recourse that remains?
      I fear TL is correct about these 9 justices and the probable point of no return they have the treasonous power to take this Republic. In this light, their decision in this matter has come down to the last resorts for everyone involved. They choose to honor their oaths of fealty to we the people and OUR Constitution, there is a chance we can pull our arses out of the fire. They choose to tyranny, the shit is going to hit the fan.

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    3. I know what your saying Jim, and I agree with you too. How to answer you, that's a tough one. I'll give it my best.

      Creeping tyranny verses paradigm shift.

      In my defense of my statement you so thoughtfully commented on Jim, in defense of my desire of hope that in all this disaster created by the political class and their handlers, by our own lack of diligence and attention to out Liberty, there was somebody, or something, a savings grace, that would be a shining light at the end of a very dark tunnel, an inspiration, a catalyst of change for peaceful recourse and redress. Now I want to be clear, and I can only speak for myself in regards to redress. It is a hope I have that recourse by means of peaceful redress has to be retained at all costs to the bitter end. The alternatives are fraught with great disaster and suffering, and I believe once the line is crossed there is no turning back till the Liberty movement is victorious. As I also believe it will ultimately be.
      This is the conundrum. Surely the treason and crimes against Liberty, against our very sovereignty are great and unacceptable. But, there is everything at stake here. Everything we know and love, our prosperity, our homes, our families, the very faith we have, is at stake, not just from the threat of our enemies, but from ourselves. Because when WE the sovereign cross the Rubicon it is going to be an ugly dirty nasty thing full of death and misery.
      My point here is that the question has always been when is it we have had enough, and more important, to venture into realms of redress beyond peaceful, at what point is it a matter of pure self preservation of our Liberty and Freedom? At what point is it that there remains no hope of peaceful recourse that remains?
      I fear TL is correct about these 9 justices and the probable point of no return they have the treasonous power to take this Republic. In this light, their decision in this matter has come down to the last resorts for everyone involved. They choose to honor their oaths of fealty to we the people and OUR Constitution, there is a chance we can pull our arses out of the fire. They choose to tyranny, the shit is going to hit the fan.

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    4. I don't know what to tell you Jim. Guess I don't understand what you are looking for. All I see there are no easy answers in any of this. The remedies are simple, implementing them successfully ain't.

      I ain't happy with whats going down either. Regardless, cool head prevail.
      I think what happened to these unfortunate fellow Americans stinks something fierce. It is unacceptable. In the larger scheme of things the first Americans who stand their ground in the form of violent redress are going to have every swinging dick and tyrant in government wanting their heads on a pike. You got to understand, as long as we pays our taxes, these tyrant don't give a shit what we say. The conundrum is they need us to fund the very tyranny they are desperate to impose on us before enough folks wise the fuck up. Its the potential of what we can do past that that is an existential threat to their power. Its the fig leaf of legitimate power where the power of the tyranny we got lays. They know it, we know it. If those 9 supremes sell us down the creek on obamacare, it ain't a matter of isolated instances for all the myriad tyrannical purposes like at Waco or Ruby Ridge, or the praetorian guard flexing its muscle, those 9 traitors will have pulled the fucking plug on everyone.
      If it can be done with the enormity of our healthcare, every further imposition of tyranny and treason is a fart in a mitten in comparison.
      While yes Jose's death is terrible in all its magnitude, its the power of we the sovereign, the teeth the 2nd amendment gives us that has the ruling class scared. Cut through all the crap and mayhem the elites are creating, it all boils down to guns. Read what the greatest mass murderer said:
      "Every Communist must grasp the truth, “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.” "Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party."
      – Mao Tse-tung
      November 6, 1938

      To that I say, lets not beat around the bush. This All about guns. Everything these elites do revolves ultimately about guns. It is guns that give these elites their power to enforce their will. It is guns that they fear. It is guns that they must, if they are to obtain absolute power, posses in order to rule with an iron fist. It is guns that they must take from the populous in order obtain that absolute power. It is guns they understand, as no other people do, that are the real power behind anything. It is guns this system of government now lives by. It is guns that they use to enforce everything.
      It is guns our founders foresaw as the ultimate line of defense of our Liberty against tyranny.
      And it is guns in the hands of We The People that they fear most.
      Any thing else is a cheap side show.
      Or... I may be just talking out my arse and am as confused and clueless as anyone.

      So Jim, if I may, this is a great piece of wisdom for what faces you and I. It is understanding the choices we must make with wisdom and forethought that will vindicate Jose and all those who precede him. May we be so fortunate.
      "The optimists. Oh, they were the ones who said, 'We're going to be out by Christmas.' And Christmas would come, and Christmas would go. Then they'd say, 'We're going to be out by Easter.' And Easter would come, and Easter would go. And then Thanksgiving, and then it would be Christmas again. And they died of a broken heart."
      Another long pause, and more walking. Then he turned to me and said, "This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end – which you can never afford to lose – with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be."
      Vice Admiral Jim Stockdale



      As John Adams said, “Let us disappoint the men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country.”

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    5. Nice piece, MTP. Looks like a solid analysis to me, point for point. When you get me in a position where there's nothing to argue about, you've accomplished something!

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    6. I think you got me me first Jim! Thanks. I want to be challenged by my fellow Americans. I want to see eye to eye on what matters most. I want to understand the choices I've already made about Liberty. I'm only one man, I got to do things right, it may be the only chance. I believe if we are to survive as a Republic, we are going to need all the friends and allies we can get. It is you and I, TL, all of us together, who are going to change the dynamic. Whether its through peaceful redress or the barrel of a gun we have to find common ground, then stand on that ground, the Liberty below each of our feet, no matter what.

      Hey! Are you attending TL's Liberty Summit Jim?
      It would be a good thing to shake your hand, talk serious, and laugh about things with you into the small hours of the night.
      I'll be there.

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    7. It's possible. The stars would have to align and several things would have to happen. But the way things are going these days, a lot can happen in a month. Right now, I'm workin' at stayin' on Earth every day!

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  3. Before we say, no more Ft. Sumters, can we say, no more Lexingtons and Concords. As some of you have said, just what line is it that these bastards have to cross before we get pissed enough to fight back? Reminds me of that old Bugs Bunny cartoon, "I dare ya to cross this line...now this line...now this line..." ad infinitum. Look, will it take some actual mass bloodshed to anger enough of us to do something? Right now, in my neck o' the woods, we have the New Black Panthers sending a small army to hunt down a guy with a $10K "Dead or Alive" bounty on his head. With Obama's blessing. I'm thinking "race war" here, as a lot of us Floridians are well-armed and ready for a fight anyway. Will this be it?

    Now we're saying, "if the Supremes....." If the Supremes do what? Rule for Obama Care? The we can take 'em down? The we can cut loose? Then that "line" has been crossed? LIke one buzzard said to the other, "Patience, my ass...I'm gonna kill something!" What line will it be that finally pisses all of us off? Or will there ever be one?

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  4. Good stuff, TP. In that comment I cited, I wrote...

    "...it’ll be over the top for me personally when some SOB tries to 'prove' that this isn’t true, that I don’t own myself. I don’t accept the denial of reality and I’ll be damned if I ever concede that utter falsity."

    Does that make any sense to you? Is it relevant to your questions IYO?

    As far as the "warrant" by the NBP, it's no laughing matter but I'm not sure there's anything serious there for a rational man to consider...beyond tactical defensive measures, of course. I mean, they're hardly any role model for rational thought and Tu Quoque is the oldest fallacy in the book.

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  5. 32? Really? We need to do better than that.

    http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/120325_trayvon-march-dc.photoblog600.jpg

    A LOT better.

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  6. The idea is that we all need to decide on ONE SINGLE LINE. Right now we're a cacophony of a thousand different voices that our government simply tunes out. We must agree on one line so as to shout together in one voice, to unite in action towards a single goal.

    The argument stands that the line was crossed over 200 years ago. First with Shay's rebellion, and then with the Whiskey rebellion.

    The time has come to set aside our different personal ideas or lines as to whats happened/whats wrong with our country. The time has come for all of us to take up the single goal of liberty.

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  7. Jim, of course you are right, I am no one to command others, or give orders, mine was a plea to agree that while other lines have been crossed, this needs to be one we can all see and maybe bring in more people to our cause. As Redwulf said, it doesn't matter when the first line was crossed if we keep making it come down to "our" line and cannot agree with others, there will never be a line. There will never be action to regain liberty.

    Thank you MT Patriot for your always well-written and insightful comments.

    And Jim, that was a very well-written piece as well, thank you for your contributions to the discussion.

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  8. The last three articles all ring so true to my soul that I know that they speak for me, but I have to agree with so much of the comments also...I have sworn to my family and my friends that I truly am willing to give up absolutely everything except my freedom to insure the continued Constitutional freedom for my grand kids....there is NO reason to die for Constitutional freedom as long as we have our God given freedom, but when that line, that all of you have so eloquently spoken of, has been crossed, our inalienable rights are truly in jeopardy, and if we stand up for our rights individually, because the line exists in a different place for every free man, then we will surely die individually, however free we might still feel...far better it would be if we all could agree that the LINE has been crossed, the leak is getting bigger, the hole must be patched, then and only then can we start to bail out the water...addressing past transgressions and arguing where we went wrong in past supreme decisions is counter productive until we stop the leak!! We are fighting a loosing battle with the American people because we believe in freedom of the press and freedom of religion, and of freedom in education, these things are all taken for granted by people like us, but used against us in the fight to remain free...we don't control the media, nor do we want to, but that very fact makes our fragile freedom very frail...I believe that we the people all want the same thing, but the media controls what we the people believe is really happening. They have a monopoly on the "facts" so to speak...we need to be able to bring reality back to the news...we need to fight fire with fire, we need to use their matches and their combustibles, because we don't have our own...for starters, why can't we put a bounty out on someone for fraud, corruption,treason, sedition, etc? A group of radical left wing thugs can...We didn't set the standard on that one, but maybe if a bounty on some of our present administration was offered for the "arrest and conviction" we could at least get their press to address the issue. None of us need to give our lives if we stick together and share our strengths and ideas yet, I hope.
    I am in western CO and really need to know where the closest group is to me...I plan to attend any meetup that is anywhere near! God Bless these United States of America!!!

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  9. What if they throw obamacare out the window?Do we wait for another line? I say,when a patriot feels frogee,jump.
    Liberty Valance

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